10
Feb
09

a fun read

this is the mindset many subaru enthusiasts need to step away from.

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I am sick and tired of the “hellaflush” craze. It is obnoxious and is only appreciated by people who have their priorities so far out of whack as to barely be recognizable as performance-oriented.

For those of you who aren’t familiar, “hellaflush” wheel and tire setups have really wide, low-offset wheels that generally stick out slightly from under the fenders. The wheels themselves are usually something obnoxiously expensive (Volks, Works, etc), and the tires on them are generally stretched to provide more fender clearance.

Let’s go back to basics here, people. Wheels were originally intended to do one thing and one thing only: 

HOLD THE PROPER SIZE TIRES IN THE PROPER PLACE. 

Besides that, all wheels do is add unsprung weight, prevent you from bolting on bigger brakes, and reduce cooling airflow to the rotors. Yes, they can look good. But they can also look horribly, horribly wrong.

If you have 18×9.5″ +30 wheels on your GC, and your fenders are pulled like crazy to fit your stretched 235’s, I don’t like your jerk-off car, your jerk-off name, or your jerk-off face. Keep your ugly fuckin’ gold-brickin’ ass outta my beach community.

Reasons:

1) Hellaflush setups run less tire than they could, because the wheels are wider than the tires. Tires are the most important component of your suspension; everything else exists to keep the tire on the road. The size and stickiness of the rubber on the road determines mechanical grip, not the width of the track.

2) Your tires are stretched, meaning you look like a ricer, a drift fanboi (which is a type of ricer) or a meth-addled Eurotuner (which is a type of ricer).

3) Messing with offsets ruins your steering feel and screws with your suspension geometry. Google “Sport Compact Car Dave Point” and learn the meaning of things like scrub radius before you start fiddling with things.

4) Hellaflushing = curb rash (this is God’s way of saying “take these things off your WRX and put them back on the rear of a 350Z where they belong”).

5) The 22B didn’t have that great a suspension setup. Yes, I know it’s sacrilege. The ride was too harsh and it tramlined badly. It was a special edition– it didn’t have to work in the real world. There’s a lesson here.

6) Heavy fender modification is easy, but it almost always looks like hell, requires much more work to correct, and invites rust. And if you don’t pull them enough, your tire and fender will eat each other.

7) The hellaflush “movement” is mostly practiced by people who have more money than a) sense, b) patience, or c) interest in actually learning something about cars.

8) Wider wheels are heavier. Why pay extra to go slower?

9) 235’s will fit on a GC with a careful fender roll, which doesn’t have to alter the exterior appearance of the fender or even crack the paint on the edge. What the hell is the point?

10) If your excuse is “it’s a show car and it doesn’t matter if it works in the real world,” then my answer is, “show cars are for weenies.”

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7 Responses to “a fun read”


  1. 1 Ren Lowe
    February 11, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Who wrote this????????????? im guessing he wont like my new set up this summer lol

  2. 2 t3hclap
    February 11, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Are you agreeing or disagreeing with the original link?

    • February 11, 2009 at 5:00 pm

      disagreeing of course

      Im sick of the closed minded E-thugss that bash any style different then what their into. Especially the guys who just throw up whatever they read on the internet.

      I bet 50% of the guys crying about performance-oriented mods don’t even track their cars.

      Now im not saying that everything in that post is false but come on:

      “If you have 18×9.5″ +30 wheels on your GC, and your fenders are pulled like crazy to fit your stretched 235’s, I don’t like your jerk-off car, your jerk-off name, or your jerk-off face. Keep your ugly fuckin’ gold-brickin’ ass outta my beach community.”

      “2) Your tires are stretched, meaning you look like a ricer, a drift fanboi (which is a type of ricer) or a meth-addled Eurotuner (which is a type of ricer).”

      “7) The hellaflush “movement” is mostly practiced by people who have more money than a) sense, b) patience, or c) interest in actually learning something about cars.”

      “10) If your excuse is “it’s a show car and it doesn’t matter if it works in the real world,” then my answer is, “show cars are for weenies.” “

      ^^^ why so much hate !? lol

      people should be able to do whatever they want !

      now hellaflush Rotas on the other hand………

  3. 4 earl
    February 11, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    what if you can make both work? <- is apparently “approved” AND i drive like it’s stolen :]

  4. 6 S.Lang
    February 12, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    What an opinionated little nob. I wonder what he rolls on? Rip-offs of “obnoxiously expensive” wheels & who references SCC? Whats even more funny is how fast all the FFFs on 2.5rs.com were willing to agree w/ him. Whateva, thanks for the read & keep up the great blog!

  5. February 15, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Amazing lololol – I never understood why people put some much effort into worry about what other people do. If it’s not your scene, then so be it.

    If you really want to get down to it…this hobby……eh, nevermind

    I do find it amusing how someone can be an OG anything when they’ve only been there since 2007 🙂


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